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IT’S A CHRISTMAS MOVIE: the mighty pre endgame rewatch continues
me at The Rooommate (aka @goteamwin): is this our favorite Iron Man movie?
The Roommate, after due consideration: this might be our favorite Iron Man movie.
anyway, on with the rewatch
- “we create our own demons” yeah maybe you do, Tony. the rest of us get therapy for that shit.
- DAMN, MARVEL, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE FLASHBACKS?
- “meet you on the rooftop” damn Tony how many times have you pulled this shit?
- Serious Meta Aside: the tldr version of what I’m about to say is that the roommate is sad for Killian and I am not and here’s why:
- My Angle: Killian’s behavior here isn’t just socially oblivious, it’s predatory. He ducks security and invades Tony’s personal space. If Tony were Antonia we’d pick up on the Gross connotations immediately (and we do, later, with Pepper).
- Tony sending Killian to the roof gets him away and gives him a private setting to realize he’s been rejected. Is it a dick move? yes. but it also minimizes confrontation and embarrassment for all parties.
- I think this is a survival strategy Tony has developed over time and it is remarkably similar to the kind of deflection techniques women use in bars. “oh not here, not now, but later maybe okay bye sweetie.”
- Tony sending Killian to the roof gets him away and gives him a private setting to realize he’s been rejected. Is it a dick move? yes. but it also minimizes confrontation and embarrassment for all parties.
- The Roommate’s Take: Tony was in the position of power, not the other way around; he could’ve afforded to be kinder and he wasn’t, and that nearly drove a man to kill himself and this is inherently unethical.
- both these takes are fair I think
- anyway back to the lulz
- My Angle: Killian’s behavior here isn’t just socially oblivious, it’s predatory. He ducks security and invades Tony’s personal space. If Tony were Antonia we’d pick up on the Gross connotations immediately (and we do, later, with Pepper).
- Serious Meta Aside: the tldr version of what I’m about to say is that the roommate is sad for Killian and I am not and here’s why:
- HEY THIS IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE
- “haven’t slept in 72 hours” oh tony
- Tony staring at his own mask and saying “i ain’t scared of you” is just. neat. i think it’s neat.
- the mandarin is after the president tony this is literally not about you why are you making it about you
- this is an iron patriot problem not a you problem tony
- Rhodey there are children present stop talking Top Secret Iron Patriot Bsns
- “NVM me i’m just gonna go get my literal metal security blanket. gotta jet byeeeeeee.” - tony stark
- hey remember how shocked/amazed/excited you were when Jarvis said “ur having a panic attack” and it was like OH MY GOD? ARE SUPERHEROES EXPERIENCING THE EMOTIONAL CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR TRAUMA?? ON MY BIG SCREEN???
- what a time
- aw hey it’s happy!
- Pepper here looking FINE in white while literally everyone around her wears black
- see? killian is definitely gross, right?
- “A giant brain” and suddenly tony is concerned, because he knows what pepper likes
- aaaaaand tony leaves his phone in the wine fridge.
- AT MINUTE 17:52 THEY SAY “THIRTEEN YEARS AGO” CONFIRMED IT IS CHRISTMAS 2012 *adds this to complex MCU timeline notes*
- see? now this is a polite and respectful but firm no because unlike Tony, Pepper is not quite so emotionally damaged.
- (also her superpower is saying no, as previously established)
- wear socks with your dress shoes killian u monster.
- *aggressive sideeye at Sebastian Stan*
- on the one hand i love tony being domestic with the suit and Pepper just rolling with it they’re so cute but on the other hand literally why does Tony do this what is the actual point
- Tony Says I’m Sorry Because He Knows What Pepper Likes
- “everything changed after New York” “oh really i did not notice that like at all” god I love this ship
- “threat is imminent” wow tony textbook ptsd much?
- “I’m gonna take a shower. You’re gonna join me.” BECAUSE PEPPER KNOWS WHAT TONY WANTS (
to be topped) - on the one hand pepper’s reaction seems harsh while Tony is literally having a panic attack but also you gotta draw lines in a relationship and being near-murdered by your boyfriend’s murder security blanket really should be a hard no.
- oh hey it’s happy
- i have literally never cared about happy before this movie
- sorry not sorry
- hey i like fortune cookies
- Tony: I’m not afraid of you
- yes
- yes you are
- stop lying
- Tony giving out his street address is such a dumb bitch move it’s the epitome of Tony Stark being An Idiot.
- “lots of theater”
- even tony knows
- we probably should not have been surprised about the Mandarin reveal
- even tony knows
- after the very first explosion: they’re all dead. tony’s dead, pepper’s dead, maya’s dead everyone is dead that’s how explosions work
- and i mean thank you for the Gift that is Rescue!Pepper but also
- she’s dead jim
- and i mean thank you for the Gift that is Rescue!Pepper but also
- NO NOT DUM E AND U
- thank goodness this is not at all traumatizing and will have no ill effects on tony’s mental health
- how they missed the iron man suit bursting from the water i’ll never know
- Listen, Tony. You dropped JARVIS in the ocean and then you didn’t put him in a bag of rice after. of course he’s malfunctioning.
- JARVIS:

- the visual of him on the couch – it looks like he’s on an awkward date with his own suit. magnificent.
- tony why do you think you should have kids Tony You Are Not Actually Good With Kids TONY WHY DO YOU KEEP ADOPTING KIDS
- The Roommate: at this point I start to forget that everyone thinks Tony is dead.
- Me: literally no one believes that Tony is dead.
- “the master” is a much funnier nickname when you know that they all (?) know the truth
- how many of these people do know the truth, actually
- “well? what are we waiting for.”
- The Roommate, An Industry Professional Who Films Many Interviews: ughhhhhh i hate guys like this WE’RE WAITING FOR YOU DOUCHEBAG U SEE ALL THIS EQUIPMENT SET UP? WE’RE! WAITING! FOR! YOUUUUUU!
- Ah Yes, My Favorite Scene.
- “do you have ptsd” “no”

- “do you have medication” “no” “do you need medication” “maybe?”
- MAYBE?? oh honey.
- this whole set up at the bar is Very Convenient For The Plot
- “cheap trick and a cheesy one liner” n i c e
- HEY. FIRE GUY. THAT IS THE TOWN WATER SUPPLY. YOU RUINED A CHRISTMAS TREE FARM. WHAT IS UR DAMAGE.
- this kid is so manipulative and tony is such a dick i love them both why am i like this
- don’t forget kids, it’s christmas
- TONY DON’T READ AND DRIVE WHAT THE HELL MAN
- whahey it’s Right Rhodes!
- whyyyyy is rhodey’s suit always getting redesigns from terrorists?
- pooter!
- what the hell is an ISDN
- update: The Roommate looked this up and apparently it doesn’t really make much sense for Tony to even use an ISDN (whatever the hell it is) and it certainly doesn’t make sense to send Super Awkward Guy to the roof of the van to frickin recalibrate the whatever.
- Me, to the Roommate: Oh. Oh my god. he sent him to the roof. the awkward guy. he sent him to the roof.
- anyway i was totally fucking right
- I’m not totally clear about where Maya is on all this? what was? her plan?
- actually how does tony pay for all this mcallister home alone nonsense? did he have his wallet on him when JARVIS dumped him in Tennessee? does he just say “bill me” to the cashier? or maybe “I am iron man” and then he just walks tf out??
- Tony looks So Offended by trevor.
- and hey, all you guys out there who were Offended by Trevor Slattery, have you considered that you’re Wrong?
- look at this
- magnificent performance
- by oscar, tony, and bafta award winning actor Ben Kingsley
- an International Treasure
- “well. i panicked, but then i handled it.”
- I C O N I C
- Ever since THOR subtlety’s had it’s day? ever since THOR?? Like Tony wasn’t prancing around in his metal panties for months before Thor showed up??? like steven grant goddamn rogers didn’t tapdance across the european theater literally wearing the american flag???
- Tony’s face when he sees pepper has extremis is just
- *OTP INTENSIFIES*
- RHODEY!!!
- “you breathe fire?” I C O N I C
- and also, Rhodes just like explosions? mayhem?? MY TONY SENSES ARE TINGLING.
- literally no one is surprised that tony is alive
- holy shit sheriff stilinski is in this???
- barrel of monkeys scene is both tense and ridiculous. how.
- ok the problem with the house party protocol is why didn’t you do it earlier???
- also hey fine time to remind everyone that Age of Ultron hadn’t happened yet just FYI a thing to remember going forward
- ugh killian is gross.
- look at this Tony & Rhodes interaction. it’s gold. i need 8 more movies about these two teaming up. there’s never enough Tony & Rhodes teaming up.
- god tony is so bad at guns i love that? why do i love that so much??
- aw it’s a christmas movie
- “they’re only coded to me” yeah right tony
- DAMN RHODEY.
- just in case anyone forgot, Rhodey’s job was to rescue the president and he did it wearing a polo shirt
- and he succeeded
- Tony’s job was to rescue pepper. he had like eighteen iron man suits and a genius AI to help him
- and he failed.
- just in case anyone forgot, Rhodey’s job was to rescue the president and he did it wearing a polo shirt
- incidentally? nearly getting roasted in his own suit and watching pepper fall into a fiery pit? good thing that won’t leave any lasting trauma on Tony’s already severely traumatized psyche.
- Pepper rescues herself AND tony
- Tony is severely turned on by this
- so am i
- Tony is severely turned on by this
- what DOES tony actually promise pepper here? he says he’s going to “cut back” or whatever, and he blows up the suits but then in Age of Ultron he’s right back on his bullshit??
- TONY DID U GIVE THIS CHILD A CAR?
- “I’m a changed man” are u tho
- “I am Iron Man.” Iconic. cheesy af. i love it.
- Seriously though: if this movie has a theme it’s subverting your expectations and i actually love that. you think Tony’s in that suit? nope he’s piloting it remotely. you think Ben Kingsley is the Mandarin? wrongo he’s an actor. you think Tony’s going to crash into Killian in that final fight? nope he’s gonna slide between his legs and jump into an iron man suit.
- unfortunately this end credits scene just reminds me that
- A) all of tony’s development gets fridged before the next movie
- B) where, exactly, were the Avengers during this whole fiasco
- C) seriously, I thought Bruce was hulked out on sakaar and then i remembered that hadn’t happened yet and i was like WHERE U BEEN BRO?
- anyway. is this our favorite iron man movie? yeah probably. is it the best iron man movie? harder to say for certain.
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This is the only MCU movie that treats mental trauma at all seriously, and I wish we could have had more of that. Even Bucky -- whose mental issues are kind of the point of Civil War -- isn't really treated as someone who needs mental health treatment, but instead as a person with a bomb that needs to be defused. What's a bit ironic about that is Marvel, as a comics company, was the one who did venture into the inner life of superheroes. But I guess the MCU decided that didn't translate onto the big screen.
I think IM3 is the last movie with Tony that I can bear to watch. I just can't stomach a re-watch of Ultron or Civil War because I hate what they did with Tony's character. I did recently watch Infinity War again and it's OK mainly because it's a series of character vignettes interspersed with Thanos's story.
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I have a bet going with myself that Kingsley came up with the actor's name himself, from Trevor Thingy (English theatre director) and Tony Slattery (English lovey).
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Seriosly, every stand alone Avenger movie gets the same reaction: uh,,,,,,,where were the rest of the Avengers during all this??? (At least in Ragnarok they had a legit reason for having to go it alone, and also kinda in TDW, but seriously, in IM 1 and 2 and WS: WHERE WERE U GUYS??? COULDA USED SOME HELP HERE!
I so agree about fridging all of Tony's growth. Why did Feige decide to destroy what they had built?